Friday, October 05, 2007

Closer on Sundays

Do our sunday morning church services promote the idea of a impersonal God. Of a God who is only in the presence of the clergy, in the 2 hours, on a sunday morning? And that is why we go?

Do we expect God to be more "present" there than anywhere else?

Do we want God to be as "present" all the time anyways?

(Is Omnipresence biblical? Is Omnipotent biblical? Do those questions matter?)

"Is that why we go?"

If not, then is that place to be more revered than the bible study, or more holy than the coffee shop, or more a place to meet with God than your local bar, your getaway, your hiding place, or East Hastings? More than your friend's broken home, the sufferer's broken hope, or your own broken soul?

(Let's ask Him now)

3 comments:

AfterVerner said...

I don't do this anymore. It makes me a little bit sad. 'Two heads are better than one' the saying goes. There are many good heads here, but not all connected.

I don't think the church was meant to connect to God. Not really. That wasn't the focus. The focus is community and fellowship with each other while in God's presence. So instead of singing songs in a corner and closing ourselves to the world to encounter God, we could worship Him together. Because He is the God of you and me, so we should praise Him together. I'm not God though. I agree...ask Him.

What do you expect to come out of church? What are to really wanting to get from it?

MC said...

is church about "getting something"? I guess I know what you mean though- and the answer might be as simple as three things

1.) Truth; it transforms everything. This encompases God through examination of the Bible and how He changes our lives etc. it becomes evident in our lifestyles and spills over to part two.

2.) People to share the experience of Truth and its repercussions with. (and b/c w/out people i'd go nuts and probably die)
(this also includes encouraging and supporting each other AKA- what i can give INTO the Church.)

3.) ah, ok so i couldn't think of a third. fine.

But my point I guess is the fact that I think sunday morning services often foster an idea of a God who is only to be found in that one place (or at least only in such intensity in that one place) which takes away from the fact that we can experience him personally.
BUT WAIT there's more- we need to experience Him with the church. That's virtually ANYONE who also believes that Jesus is the Son of God. It can happen virtually ANYPLACE and ANYTIME.

I guess that's all i want- nothing much more than that.

Anyways- i'm going to go eat my lunch. That's what i was going to do before i read your reply and had to answer you. (mmm potatoes)

AfterVerner said...

I don't like potatoes that much. I'm going to tell you some other peoples stories about how church isn't a building and about how it is a family. I like how themes seems to run through life. It makes things easier. I was at the church cell group, and they started telling stories how the church came up around them. But not the whole thing. just the church that was close to them. When disaster strikes, everyone was there. That needed to be there. It's like in Heroes, at the start of the episode, they have clips from so many episodes that they could show, and take the relevant ones. You expect truth and community? I guarantee that the community is there, at least with some of them. And Jesus said he was truth, so truth is there too. That's a terrible answer. I know. But hey, maybe leaving because something isn't there but it really is, is a bad reason to be leaving?

But I'll let you go. Not that you need my permission. But that's okay. And you had better reasons in your paragraph anyway/